Dave Portnoy, the founder of Barstool Sports, was surprised when a team of NPR journalists asked to talk.

“If you told me that I would be in a political inclination podcast on NPR and like five years ago, I would like: you are crazy,” he said during a conversation at a podcast studio near his home in Miami.

Portnoy is interested in after an election that men voted heavy for Trump – and included Portnoy, which is sometimes identified with “barsul orthodox” National Review, There is a non-religious “sexual liberalism, anti-powerism, anti-vision and one-religious” Potpauri of many F-Bals. ,

His business increased with internet and sports gambling. Barstool podcasts carry many gambling advertisements. As its creator, Portnoy has earned enough money for homes near Nantket and Miami, placing a million-dollar bets on football games and cryptocurrency. He has been criticized for remarks about unions, breeds, women and even rapes, insisting he was a joke. They quarreled, and sued, Commercial insider After this published Stories alleging sexual misconductFinally left an appeal after dismissing his trial in 2023.

As a star figure in a media company, who meets a large male audience, is also seen as part of “mansefare”, internet figures that talk to interests, and sometimes male voters complaints,.

Portnoy spoke Morning version To insert real questions for controversial or impressive figures as part of a chain – those who may seem different in length in our frantic, distracted, overheet national discourse. Previous guests include Rape. Alexandria Osacio-CoortagePodcaster Steve banan And president of Harvard Allen garber,

Below are some major points from the interview, which you can see above.

The style matters as much as the substance

Portnoy was the most concentrated on culture and approach. He said that his vote for Trump was “a Democrats’ prosecution compared to Trump’s support for politics. Democrats’ prosecution on the lack of “blunt talk”, excess of “awakened politics”, and they are generally considered as a desire to “shame” men and especially.

He is different with Trump on many issues

If politics was purely about issues, Portnoy could be close to Democrats. He is in favor of abortion rights, and when he talks about immigration, he seems a bit more generous than the Trump administration.

“I don’t think you should go back on time,” he said. “If someone is not legally here, but they are a productive member of the society without any issue, I don’t think you say,” Get out of here. “

He is very successful and feels seen below

In explaining its inclination to the right, Portnoy established Barrstool as a four-room paper paper on sports gambling in the early 2000s.

“I started a business from scratch and did not really get any help, took home, did not take a holiday day for 10 years and grind my ass to get it where it is. And I felt that I somehow feel ashamed as a white person who wants to make a lot of money and live a great life. And harassed me.”

Their language has developed, a little

During our conversation, Portnoy mentioned a word that suggested that society is becoming more woman that she would “be used back during the day”.

He also narrated a moment that he says, still inspires him to labeled the racist: he sang an N-Word in a social media post, which, years ago, he used the word several times. “I will never do it again,” he now says. “But different time…. I did not realize the effect that it would be on some people. I will not do it again. But there is reference to things. There is more texture for things. And very often I think I think in this Internet era, I think it has been blown out. I mean that the clip is still used against me. If no one likes me, if no one likes me, I would have heard every time.”

Recently, the Free Speech Advocate has created news by condemning the use of a slurry against the Jews in a Barstool bar in Philadelphia.

He could vote for a democrat

He said, “I will vote for a Democrat. And I have voted for the Democrat,” he said, but he said that he did not want to be “Dimonated” by the party for his language and ideas. “Everything is almost as serious as it may look,” he said. “People can say that a girl is beautiful without being a sexist.”